Posts by Alligator Wisdom

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Albums, Tapes, or Videos You Had to Throw Away?

by WTWizard in

there are so many songs that the watchtower society says are "bad".

they are the ones that hint on sexual immorality, violence, drugs, or that have reference to devil worship.

or the ones that have swearing in them, which seems to be common these days.. what really gets me is how they find such petty things wrong with songs that they basically want to clean out your whole library and make you listen to kingdumb s*** all the time.

Alligator Wisdom

KISS stands for Knights in Satan's Service, ya know.
Rush stands for Raised Under Satan's House, in case you were wondering.

Also, don't forget AC/DC = Anti Christ/Devil's Children

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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Albums, Tapes, or Videos You Had to Throw Away?

by WTWizard in

there are so many songs that the watchtower society says are "bad".

they are the ones that hint on sexual immorality, violence, drugs, or that have reference to devil worship.

or the ones that have swearing in them, which seems to be common these days.. what really gets me is how they find such petty things wrong with songs that they basically want to clean out your whole library and make you listen to kingdumb s*** all the time.

Alligator Wisdom

I have two things to say about this.

1) Several years ago I had invited a new elder who just moved into the congregation to my place for a light snack. You know, I was doing the Christian hospitality sort of thing. Do you know what he did? He made a bee line directly to my CD rack and started to comment on the various types of music I collected. Being a respected JW in good standing that I was, my music really couldn't be considered questionable even by fair minded JWs. However, this elder slipped out one CD that I had bought during my travels in Eastern Europe. It was some cultural music (basically folk songs/polka) that I bought as a novelty. He immediately gave me the inquisition on if I knew the lyrics and the meaning of what they meant, which of course I didn't because of the language barrier. He gave me a stern warning saying that Satan will use anything, even the square dance type of music that the CD contained to subtly lead me off into the broad road that leads to destruction. He said this in all seriousness.

I never had him back again. And I still have that CD.

2) Side note to this topic. Now this is scary. There was one Bethalite that I know who can tell you the song number of any Kingdom Melody. Just play the CD of the piano version (the one that they now use at the KH for singing) at random and he can tell you what song number it is. OMG! That confirmed it to me. These Bethelites are freaks! That is all what they listen to, day in and day out, night in and night out. Of course, he asked me what my favorite Kingdom Melody was. I shrugged my shoulder (not knowing the song number off hand) and said my favorite one as a child was "From House to House", because it has a certain flashback flavor to it. He immediately answered, "Oh, song #32. That is taken from Acts 20:20. And did you know that song #192 was taken from Acts 20:20 as well?"

OMG! FREAK!!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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WT Stands to Make Millions on Properties

by XBEHERE in

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not sure if anyone posted this yet.

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/05142007/news/regionalnews/the_land_lord_regionalnews_rich_calder.htm.

Alligator Wisdom

I've seen something like this posted elsewhere, but from a different news source. However the picture of the JW holding the Watchtower looks like an ad campaign. I assume that is the brother in charge of the real estate/property department for the WTS.

Sure, the WTS can use the money. It is a given. Seemingly the cash flow is slowing down to a trickle and they can use this as instant cash.

Thanks for posting the article!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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How many people did you bring into the "troof"?

by Bob Loblaw in

i left when i was in my teenage years, thank god, so i didn't really have the chance to bring anyone under the wts mind control.

how about you?

did you bring anyone in?...and if so, where are they now?

Alligator Wisdom

None.....yet!

I suggested to my former Bible student in my former congregation to wait until he was Jesus' age (30 years old or so) before getting baptized. He was 22 at the time I was studying with him at least five years ago. He was raised a witness and is an unbaptized publisher. As far as I know now, he's not baptized yet and maybe keeping my suggestion intact thus far. Hopefully he doesn't see the need once he becomes thirty.

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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Recommend a car

by Simon in

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i hate cars.

they just cost money and eventually rust away.. however, given that it's pretty difficult to do anything without one in north america and that we now need another because angharad got a job (yay), does anyone have any good suggestions?.

things i want:.

Alligator Wisdom

Anything but a FORD.
FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily

Not that I have anything particularly against Fords, but this is funny: Found On Road Dead Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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Recommendations About Leaving The Truth

by The wanderer in

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recommendations about leaving the truth leaving the organization regardless of the circumstances can be difficult.

so much is interwoven besides leaving a religion or philosophy behind.

recently, i had the good fortune of bringing my best friend out of the .

Alligator Wisdom

I just don't have the stomach anymore to say the boatload of crap you just did.

I wouldn't either before, but now it is fun pretending to be a fanatical FDS follower. But like I said, only when the occasion arises.

Now that I think about it, do you think you're just seen as someone who's a little too gung-ho and off balance?

No. Everyone knows me as being a mild and sensitive brother. I've been told that I am very approachable. Far more approachable than the elders. (By the way, I declined eldership twice). I'm active and considered to be balanced. I organize congregation events outside the meeting arrangement and visit the neglected ones that the elders should be giving attention to. Can you imagine me in your minds eye? So they know the point I'm trying to drive when I over emphasize the FDS. Yet, nobody will stop me. Because if they did, technically they can and will be accused of apostasy. It really makes them think. And thinking is what they had been hindered to do. It really is satisfying to do and see.

If so, I'm not sure your strategy will work.

Believe me, it's working. They actually start to downplay the FDS. Then it hits them! They see what I'm doing, but in a tactful sort of way. They smile and finally acknowledge who the real head of the congregation is, Jesus. Their conversations now include Jesus and Jehovah far more than I've ever heard in the congregation.

Or, do you think some in your congregation are beginning to doubt the authority of the F&D slave?

Whether they are doubting the authority of the FDS, it is very possible. I'm just trying to let them see and gear them away from being a FDS follower. I'm having a great time doing it. It is a subtle form of strategy. Very candid. Very telling. And the most important thing is that it makes them think!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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JW's been printing the watchtower since 1879?!

by sinis in

i browsed a mag this weekend, almost puked, but noticed that they changed the verbage inside the front cover.

talks about how jehovahs witnesses have been printing the watchtower since 1879. i though they were called ibs back then?

i also thought it was called zion's watch tower and herald of christ's presence back then?

Alligator Wisdom

I remember the meeting and the announcement of the 100th anniversary issue of the Watchtower that was given in 1979. Of course, the magazine didn't state it what-so-ever on the cover nor the contents. It just was a nice plug given by an elder at the service meeting.

Looking back, I never did notice anyone making any sort of announcement regarding the Bible. "Did you know that this year is the 1400 anniversary since the book of Obadiah was completed?" But if it has to do with the WT/Awake/OKM, but all means let the congregation know!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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Some bad news about me and this forum...dont be too upset!!!

by ninja in

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after much soul searching i have had time to think about my participation on this board....and!!!!!

i have come to a painful decision....i know this will hurt a lot of you and i know a lot of folk will try and talk me out of this but i won't change my mind....so here goes.......i'm staying!!!!!

muhahahahahahahahahaha......ninja/ette/y/oid

Alligator Wisdom

What I always say is that if there is bad news, you can still find some good news!

Be careful! You might have to be taken to the back room for a JC with minimus, JH and garybuss with a lashing from Proverbs 22:15.

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exering Vigorously)

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Your Opinion On Text Messaging While Driving

by minimus in

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that i think is crazy but most younger drivers do it.

Alligator Wisdom

Stupid and foolish. But nothing like the person I saw text messaging while riding his motorcycle!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

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The Watchtower Lie That Hurts Children and Families (6/1/07)

by metatron in

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question from readers, june 1 2007:.

"does proverbs 22:6 guarantee that if christian children are properly trained, they will not depart from .

the way of jehovah?".

Alligator Wisdom

I am so glad that so many young people are leaving the WT.

Yes, and the existing congregations are getting older and older.

I went back to visit my former congregation not too long ago and found a drastic change. Everybody is turning gray! Hardly any kids. No infants! Just a few scattered teenagers. Honestly, the average age would be 45 years old in that congregation.

My current congregation, the average age is about 35 years old. I'm living in an area where the need is great, so many in my congregation are childless as they are also serving where their is a greater need.

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)